Isn't that a ploy to put Anti-war citizens between the sword and the stone? If you say any exit is a surrender now matter WHAT is put on the table, then the war never ends. The goal was Iraqi freedom right? Ok so they have their government now, saddam is gone and an 80 billion dollar surplus, great now then isn't it time to leave them alone to fight their own terrorists? terrorism will never go away -- Republicans and Democrats alike need to accept that. Terrorism is like murder, it will NOT stop as long as human beings are on Planet earth. Would you like to invade every country with a high murder right? If the US spends itself into oblivion out in Iraq it becomes a prime target to for DOMESTIC terror.

Also...Surrender to who? The terrorists that are laughing their as*es off from hills in Afghanistan ?

It's not to me, and the president of Iraq wants us to agree to such a plan and why would he want to surrender? Clearly only those who have an agenda to keep our troops their have any reason to call it a surrender to try to bully people to go along with them.

No, the terrorist that are laughing in the hide outs here in the states.


Nothing build courage like seeing your enemy act like a coward.

It is sheer ignorance. The alternative is occupation. I do not think that we should occupy another country especially one that we went into under false pretenses.

The point of her argument and truly the Bush/McCain insistence to stay is to try to prove that we belonged there in the first place. Which we did not.

I do not see that a plan to exit is surrender. What will we win, if we win the war in Iraq, will we find those weapons of mass destruction?

Its an irrational McCain talking point. He is still haunted by visions of Vietnam. Any war where America does not stay forever is a surrender.